Water, Wind, and Stupid | 5

After Gracie begins receiving cruel messages from subscribers, she and Leon explore the darker corners of online desire — from a ruthless Romanian cam pioneer to AI influencers built to exploit loneliness. Gracie is forced to confront a troubling idea: that making real money depends on treating men as endlessly exploitable — and what it might cost her to do the same. Credits: Hosts — Leon Neyfakh and Gracie Canaan Supervisor Producer — Sam Lee Editor — Diane Hodson Producers — Dustin DeSoto and Betsy Shepherd Mix Engineer — Erica Huang Theme Song and Score — Billy Libby Fact-Checker — Annika Robbins Executive Producers — Lara Regan Kleinschmidt, Jules Henderson, and Heather Won Tesoriero See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.