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Jane and Fi enjoy a slice of cake for Fi's birthday.
They're joined by Ben Bailey Smith (AKA Doc Brown) to discuss his podcast, Shrink the Box, which is out now.
They also hear from Professor Dawn Scott, who's got some surprising research on violent hedgehogs.
If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio
Assistant Producer: Kea Browning
Times Radio Producer: Kate Lee
Podcast Executive Producer: Ben Mitchell
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