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As our first special guest on NAO, John McTernan makes the case for a soft-left duopoly in Downing Street and we all disagree all over again on net zero policy - even more fiercely. We debate Badenoch's decision to "purge" Gavin Barwell and whether party leaders are wise to set policy tests. Plus: the implications for access to our politicians of Ann Widdecombe's dreadful murder.
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