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No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups · May 8, 2025 · 32 min

Gaming as the Future of Education with Duolingo CEO Luis von Ahn

On this episode of No Priors, Sarah talks to Luis von Ahn, founder and CEO of Duolingo, the world’s most popular education app with over 116 million monthly users and a market cap of approximately $17 billion. Controversially, it has recently committed to being “AI-first.” They discuss why motivation is the biggest challenge in education, how Duolingo harnesses game mechanics and behavioral insights to keep learners engaged, and the company’s efforts to leverage AI to personalize education at scale. Luis also shares thoughts on the Duolingo brand, courses beyond language (chess and math), and the broader impact of AI on content creation. Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @LuisvonAhn Links: Duolingo is now AI-First: http://bit.ly/3RQzny3 Show Notes: 0:00 Introduction 4:01 Optimizing learning behavior through tech 11:20 Adopting AI at Duolingo 17:25 AI’s threat to content companies 18:34 An unhinged corporate brand 21:28 How do people learn? 25:16 What people misunderstand about Duolingo? 26:24 How AI is transforming learning at scale 30:28 Leveraging AI across the business

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On this episode of No Priors, Sarah talks to Luis von Ahn, founder and CEO of Duolingo, the world’s most popular education app with over 116 million monthly users and a market cap of approximately $17 billion. Controversially, it has recently committed to being “AI-first.” They discuss why motivation is the biggest challenge in education, how Duolingo harnesses game mechanics and behavioral insights to keep learners engaged, and the company’s efforts to leverage AI to personalize education at scale. Luis also shares thoughts on the Duolingo brand, courses beyond language (chess and math), and the broader impact of AI on content creation.

Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com

Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @LuisvonAhn

Links: Duolingo is now AI-First: http://bit.ly/3RQzny3

Show Notes:

0:00 Introduction

4:01  Optimizing learning behavior through tech

11:20 Adopting AI at Duolingo

17:25 AI’s threat to content companies

18:34 An unhinged corporate brand

21:28 How do people learn?

25:16 What people misunderstand about Duolingo?

26:24 How AI is transforming learning at scale

30:28 Leveraging AI across the business


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