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Democratizing Security for the Agentic Web with Cloudflare CTO Dane Knecht

In the transition to the agentic web, security has become an afterthought. Now, organizations are racing to figure out what AI security means, and how to keep their data safe. Live from Cloudflare Connect, Sarah Guo sits down with Cloudflare CTO Dane Knecht to discuss the changing attacker landscape, and how his company is allocating its engineering resources to meet this emerging security challenge. Dane explains how enterprises that have moved away from castle-and-moat infrastructure to more of a zero trust infrastructure for security are in better positions than those who haven’t. He also discusses the challenges of patching 70 years of software and why the software development lifecycle will need to change for security for the agentic web, why he sees token spend in the next 18 months primarily going towards security rather than engineering, how the current web is in a ‘messy middle’ state where humans and agents are riding the same ‘rails’ on the internet, Cloudflare’s conference monetization gateway release as well as its Signals project with OpenAI, the rationale behind the release of Cloudflare OS, and the thinking behind a recent company restructuring. Plus, why Cloudflare hired one thousand interns, and why curiosity about AI is required to be successful at Cloudflare. Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @Cloudflare | @dok2001 Chapters: 00:00 – Trailer 00:55 – Cloudflare CTO Top Priorities 05:03 – Today’s Attacker Landscape 06:16 – State of Internet Infrastructure 07:31 – Shift Towards Security Spend 08:39 – Road to Better Software and Internet Security 09:50 – Building Secure Production Software 11:41 – Reducing Surface Area 12:54 – Near Future of the Web 17:27 – Monetization and Signals 19:13 – Success for Content Creators 20:07 – Workplace OS and Use Cases 24:07 – Restructuring for AI-First 27:11 – Token Budgeting 29:32 – Cloudflare’s Intern Strategy 33:39 – Importance of Curiosity 35:29 – Attacking the Legacy Software Security Problem 37:08 – Engineering Team Prioritization 38:25 – Open vs. Closed Models 39:43 – Democratizing Security for Everyone 41:29 – Conclusion

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In the transition to the agentic web, security has become an afterthought. Now, organizations are racing to figure out what AI security means, and how to keep their data safe. Live from Cloudflare Connect, Sarah Guo sits down with Cloudflare CTO Dane Knecht to discuss the changing attacker landscape, and how his company is allocating its engineering resources to meet this emerging security challenge. Dane explains how enterprises that have moved away from castle-and-moat infrastructure to more of a zero trust infrastructure for security are in better positions than those who haven’t. He also discusses the challenges of patching 70 years of software and why the software development lifecycle will need to change for security for the agentic web, why he sees token spend in the next 18 months primarily going towards security rather than engineering, how the current web is in a ‘messy middle’ state where humans and agents are riding the same ‘rails’ on the internet, Cloudflare’s conference monetization gateway release as well as its Signals project with OpenAI, the rationale behind the release of Cloudflare OS, and the thinking behind a recent company restructuring. Plus, why Cloudflare hired one thousand interns, and why curiosity about AI is required to be successful at Cloudflare. 


Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com


Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @Cloudflare | @dok2001


Chapters:

00:00 – Trailer

00:55 – Cloudflare CTO Top Priorities

05:03 – Today’s Attacker Landscape

06:16 – State of Internet Infrastructure

07:31 – Shift Towards Security Spend

08:39 – Road to Better Software and Internet Security

09:50 – Building Secure Production Software

11:41 – Reducing Surface Area

12:54 – Near Future of the Web

17:27 – Monetization and Signals 

19:13 – Success for Content Creators 

20:07 – Workplace OS and Use Cases

24:07 – Restructuring for AI-First

27:11 – Token Budgeting

29:32 – Cloudflare’s Intern Strategy

33:39 – Importance of Curiosity

35:29 – Attacking the Legacy Software Security Problem

37:08 – Engineering Team Prioritization

38:25 – Open vs. Closed Models

39:43 – Democratizing Security for Everyone

41:29 – Conclusion