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Why UBI Won't Save Human Freedom | Clara Collier

Clara Collier joins MTS to discuss why a post-work economy powered by artificial intelligence will drive societies toward insular social conformity rather than individual freedom. She explains how historical non-working groups offer a realistic template for a UBI future and addresses the growing political polarization surrounding AI safety advocacy. She also breaks down why automated services will displace human roles despite common assumptions about human-to-human connection. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love. MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens. Follow MTS: X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠ YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠ Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠ Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠ -- Brought to you by: Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/ Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line. Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠ ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠ Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:23) Post-Labor Economies Create Social Conformity (04:36) How Post-AGI Relational Networks Function (08:32) What Relational Societies Optimize For (10:57) Cultural Trends Surrounding Individualism (14:02) Bridge AI Safety and Progress Studies (17:48) What Remains Scarce in Automated Futures -- Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.

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Clara Collier joins MTS to discuss why a post-work economy powered by artificial intelligence will drive societies toward insular social conformity rather than individual freedom. She explains how historical non-working groups offer a realistic template for a UBI future and addresses the growing political polarization surrounding AI safety advocacy. She also breaks down why automated services will displace human roles despite common assumptions about human-to-human connection. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


Follow MTS: 

X | https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ 

Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ 

Substack | https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

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Brought to you by:

Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

ElevenLabs -  AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com  to learn more

Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:23) Post-Labor Economies Create Social Conformity

(04:36) How Post-AGI Relational Networks Function

(08:32) What Relational Societies Optimize For

(10:57) Cultural Trends Surrounding Individualism

(14:02) Bridge AI Safety and Progress Studies

(17:48) What Remains Scarce in Automated Futures

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Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


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