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MTS · August 6 · 21 min

Classical Computing Can't Scale AI | Guillaume Verdon

Guillaume Verdon joins MTS to discuss scaling thermodynamic computing, replacing classical bit architecture with pbits, and building software frameworks for stochastic programming. He outlines the trade-offs between numerical precision and power efficiency when running AI models on low-power chips. Additionally, he shares how thermodynamic systems can co-exist with GPUs to tackle complex frontier problems. -- https://x.com/GillVerd -- MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens. Follow MTS: X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠ YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠ Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠ Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠ -- Brought to you by: ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts⁠ Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠ Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠ Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:01) Scaling Extropic’s New Z1 Hardware (00:04) Running Current AI Models on Z1 (00:07) Moving Away From Deterministic Computing (00:11) Comparing Probabilistic Bits to Qubits (00:13) Explaining the Torcs Software Framework (00:15) Future of Classical Computers and GPUs (00:19) Onboarding Developers onto Extropic Frameworks -- Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.

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Guillaume Verdon joins MTS to discuss scaling thermodynamic computing, replacing classical bit architecture with pbits, and building software frameworks for stochastic programming. He outlines the trade-offs between numerical precision and power efficiency when running AI models on low-power chips. Additionally, he shares how thermodynamic systems can co-exist with GPUs to tackle complex frontier problems.

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https://x.com/GillVerd

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MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


Follow MTS: 

X |https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

YouTube |https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ 

Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ 

Substack |https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

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Brought to you by:

ElevenLabs -  AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts⁠

Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:01) Scaling Extropic’s New Z1 Hardware

(00:04) Running Current AI Models on Z1

(00:07) Moving Away From Deterministic Computing

(00:11) Comparing Probabilistic Bits to Qubits

(00:13) Explaining the Torcs Software Framework

(00:15) Future of Classical Computers and GPUs

(00:19) Onboarding Developers onto Extropic Frameworks

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Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.

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