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Kate Kennedy

For 12 years, Kate Kennedy lived a double life - a sugar baby in secret, haunted by the shame society attaches to sex work. But when a man threatened to expose her, she flipped the script. Now, she’s reclaiming her story and challenging the stigma head-on. In this bold and unfiltered podcast, Kate sits down with sex workers from every corner of the industry to rewrite the narrative, one honest conversation at a time. Real stories. Real voices. No shame. No filter.

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  • Dec 4, 2025 · 55 min

    15. Lily Phillips - Porn Stars Are Not Responsible For Educating Your Kids

    Lily Phillips became one of the most well known Only Fans creators and controversial porn stars of our generation, after her "100 men in a day" challenge. She then went on to break a record by sleeping with 1000 men in one day. Her challenges and stunts, as well as her collaborations with Bonnie Blue, saw her take on a lot of criticism from the wider community as a bad role model for young woman - but since when were adult stars meant to be role models, and why has it fallen on them to educate kids on sex? In this must-listen episode, Lily Phillips sits down for her deepest interview yet. Lily opens up about why she doesn’t like being compared to Bonnie Blue, her firm belief that sex education needs to happen younger, and why she’s officially done with challenge-style content. We dive into: • Mental health in the adult industry • How she feels about being labeled 'Predator' • The importance of female friendships and how they’ve supported her career • How to be better in bed and what most people get wrong about sex • The effects sex work has had on her relationships • The pressure she feels to be a positive role model for young women • How she handles criticism on social media • Which surgeries she’s had and her thoughts on cosmetic work • What the men who attend her events are REALLY like. Music by Toby Young and Jacob Long

  • #14
    Nov 20, 2025 · 1 hr 7 min

    14. Sugar Daddies, Sex Parties and Setting Boundaries

    This week , I sit down with one of my best friends, Elyse - to catch up on everything I’ve learned over the last six months of Make Them Pay. We dive into the surge of women joining Seeking Arrangements and OnlyFans, the truth about sugar dating, and whether rising awareness of this industry actually helps sex workers. We also talk about setting healthy boundaries, the future of monogamy, navigating sex parties, and whether hiring an escort is the safest option when exploring a threesome. If you’re interested in modern relationships, sex work realities, online dating, or ethical non-monogamy, this episode is for you.

  • #13
    Nov 6, 2025 · 1 hr

    13. Male Escorts - What Woman Pay For & What Men Can Learn

    In this episode, I chat with professional male escort Tommy Hart for an honest and eye-opening discussion about the male escort industry, female pleasure, and the dynamics of modern relationships. Tommy reveals why many women choose male escorts over casual dating apps, and how couples work with him to reignite intimacy and rekindle sexual chemistry in their relationships. We dive deep into the misconceptions men have about female pleasure, and what both men and women can do to enhance sexual satisfaction and emotional connection. Tommy also shares the realities of being a male sex worker, why professionalism and boundaries are vital, and how some self-serving motives in the industry can harm clients and trust. Plus, he offers empowering insights on how women can build confidence in the bedroom and improve sexual wellness within their relationships. If you’re interested in sex and intimacy, relationship advice, or understanding the truth about the escort industry, this is an enlightening conversation you don’t want to miss. Music by Toby Young and Jacob Long

  • S1 · E12
    Oct 24, 2025 · 56 min

    12. Sugar Daddy Horror Story - “It Was A Prison” Alexis Mae

    From the outside it looked like Alexis had the perfect Sugar Daddy, he bought her a car, house, took her overseas to buy award winning horses, she even stopped working to start her dream business - funded by him. But her dreams slowly turned into a nightmare when he went through her phone bill.... Music By Toby Young and Jacob Long

  • #11
    Sep 26, 2025 · 1 hr 4 min

    11. My Sugar Daddy - Why Rich Men Pay For Sex

    This week’s guest is one of my favourite sugar daddies, and he’s here to help me challenge the way people see the men who pay for companionship. Too often, society feeds us the idea that they’re creepy, disrespectful, or incapable of getting a woman without paying. He gives a very honest insight into why rich men opt for paid companionship over social dating sights, By the end of this episode, I think you’ll agree with us that this is just another myth about the sex industry. We dive into how we met, what our arrangement looks like, and why he first turned to sex workers during his marriage. He also shares what he would say if his daughter wanted to become a sex worker, and he gives an honest warning about a common trap women should look out for before entering the industry. I’m so grateful he was willing to come on and be this open and honest! helping me push back against the shame and stigma that still surround this work and change the representation of the men

  • #10
    Sep 11, 2025 · 49 min

    10. Sex Work With Autism - "I had to learn how to make eye contact and small talk" - Jade Blair

    This week I’m joined by Jade Blair (@jadeblairxox) - a sex worker and advocate with 9 years in the industry. From working as a private escort and in brothels to building her career on OnlyFans, Jade has seen it all. She’s volunteered with sex worker advocacy groups across Australia and in 2025 won Best Industry Advocate at the Australian Adult Industry Awards. We talk about why normalising sex work makes the industry safer, how autism effects her work, the way male clients are just as misrepresented as the sex workers, and the controversial TikTok money counts Music by Toby Young and Jacob Long

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