Make Me Smart

The countdown to a government shutdown begins (again)

Jul 9, 2025 · 13 min · Episode 1422 · 12.8 MB
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Now that the “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” is law, Congress is turning its attention to another matter: avoiding a government shutdown. We’ll explain what it will take to keep the government running beyond Congress’ Sept. 30 deadline. And, we’ll fill you in on another deadline: President Trump’s new due date for trade deals before a slew of higher tariff rates kick in. Plus, a listener’s story of frozen pizza and facing fears.


Here’s everything we talked about today: