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In The Cut Podcast · Sep 22, 2025 · 44 min

Andor is the Best Star Wars Show PERIOD.

On this episode of In The Cut Podcast writer and producer Tian Jun Gu (House of Cards, Y the Last Man) comes on to break down “Make It Stop,” an episode from the second season of Andor (Disney+). From Dedra’s relentless pursuit of Axis, to the shocking fate of Luthen, to we dive into the episode’s bold storytelling choices, cinematic visuals, and moral ambiguity at the heart of rebellion. Plus, Tian Jun shares invaluable insights he gain while participating in the Writers' Guild East Showrunner's training program. Whether you’re a Star Wars fan, an aspiring writer, or just love great TV, this episode is packed with storytelling gems. Chapters: 0:00 – Welcome to In The Cut Podcast 0:19 – Andor Series Overview & Make it Stop Summery 1:42 – Fade In / Fade Out: Star Wars Edition (Rapid Fire Game) 8:22 – Opening Scene of Make It Stop (Lonnie’s Betrayal & Death Star Reveal) 14:39 – Dedra Meets Axis (Luthen’s Tense Confrontation) 18:29 – Kleya & Luthen's Relationship vs Cassian & Maarva 25:09 – Final Scene & The End of Luthen (A Fitting Farewell) 34:17 – TV Writing Tips & Showrunner Lessons with Tian Jun Gu -- Watch full episodes on YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@InTheCutLA/videos Produced by: Raenbo Media & Video Del Mar Host & Executive Producer: Rae Benjamin Director & Executive Producer: Joseph Fuentes Original Music by: Michael Shann aka MadOne For more resources, live events, and virtual workshops, visit https://inthecutla.org/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inthecutla Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@inthecutla1 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-cut-podcast/id1786880317 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1QpovDQ7d2yiLV5K0fxhyq -- Season 2 Credits: Key Set PA Jose Medina Rodriguez Set PAs Cathie Arteaga Julio Correa Jordan Patton Terrence Little Michael Shann III Post-Production PA Johan Barry Writer’s Assistants Ra Djhuty Balla-Gabriele Laura Ferdinand Keith A. Wallace PR/Marketing Assistants Marcy Best Tiffany D. Pinkney

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On this episode of In The Cut Podcast writer and producer Tian Jun Gu (House of Cards, Y the Last Man) comes on to break down “Make It Stop,” an episode from the second season of Andor (Disney+). 

From Dedra’s relentless pursuit of Axis, to the shocking fate of Luthen, to we dive into the episode’s bold storytelling choices, cinematic visuals, and moral ambiguity at the heart of rebellion. Plus, Tian Jun shares invaluable insights he gain while participating in the Writers' Guild East Showrunner's training program.

Whether you’re a Star Wars fan, an aspiring writer, or just love great TV, this episode is packed with storytelling gems. 
 

Chapters: 

0:00 – Welcome to In The Cut Podcast 

0:19 – Andor Series Overview & Make it Stop Summery 

1:42 – Fade In / Fade Out: Star Wars Edition (Rapid Fire Game) 

8:22 – Opening Scene of Make It Stop (Lonnie’s Betrayal & Death Star Reveal) 

14:39 – Dedra Meets Axis (Luthen’s Tense Confrontation) 

18:29 – Kleya & Luthen's Relationship vs Cassian & Maarva 

25:09 – Final Scene & The End of Luthen (A Fitting Farewell) 

34:17 – TV Writing Tips & Showrunner Lessons with Tian Jun Gu 

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Watch full episodes on YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@InTheCutLA/videos 
 

Produced by: Raenbo Media & Video Del Mar 
 

Host & Executive Producer: Rae Benjamin 
 

Director & Executive Producer: Joseph Fuentes 
 

Original Music by: Michael Shann aka MadOne 
 

For more resources, live events, and virtual workshops, visit https://inthecutla.org/ 
 

Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inthecutla 


Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@inthecutla1 
 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-cut-podcast/id1786880317 
 

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1QpovDQ7d2yiLV5K0fxhyq 

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Season 2 Credits: 

Key Set PA 

Jose Medina Rodriguez 

Set PAs 

Cathie Arteaga 

Julio Correa 

Jordan Patton 

Terrence Little 

Michael Shann III 

Post-Production PA 

Johan Barry 

Writer’s Assistants 

Ra Djhuty Balla-Gabriele 

Laura Ferdinand 

Keith A. Wallace 

PR/Marketing Assistants 

Marcy Best 

Tiffany D. Pinkney