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Guru Viking Podcast · May 29 · 1 hr 42 min

Ep363: Mythic Descent & the Dark Side of Dharma - Duncan Barford

In this episode I am once again joined by Duncan Barford, occult practitioner, counsellor, and author of “Occult Experiments in the Home”. Duncan reflects on his training as a counsellor and the difficulties in sharing his occult interests in that context; his deep appreciation of Freud and Jung; and the links between psychoanalysis and mythic figures such as such as Uranus, Oedipus, and Narcissus. Duncan considers whether Buddhism is merely a useful fiction, offers advice for those interested in learning how tp use mythology to gain insight into life, and explains why the emphasis of his spiritual practice has shifted from awakening to psychological wellbeing. Duncan also talks about his new magical novel, “The Going Down”, describes its plot and messages, and reveals why he believes the practice of Pragmatic Dharma can accrue a profoundly dark karmic debt. … Video version: www.guruviking.com Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’. … Topics include: 00:00 - Intro 00:59 - Duncan’s therapist hated the occult 02:58 - Misconceptions about Jungian therapy 04:19 - Psychopomp as therapist 04:25 - Freud, Jung, Skinner, Piaget, Rogers, and Carlyle 08:48 - Duncan was a fervent Freudian 09:35 - Freud vs trauma therapy 13:13 - What Freud did 15:58 - Buddhism’s useful fiction 19:47 - Where Freud went wrong 21:50 - The castration complex 26:37 - Castration myths 27:58 - Freud and Duncan’s childhood 30:40 - Universal or culturally specific? 32:15 - Oedipus, myth, and psychoanalysis 37:29 - Duncan’s novel 38:36 - Writing “The Going Down” 41:11 - Plot summary 43:07 - A life-changing ancestor working 44:22 - Duncan’s hope for the book 45:53 - Fiction and the occult 48:40 - Alan Chapman’s dismay at the novel 49:22 - The dark, karmic debt of Pragmatic Dharma 54:38 - Meeting a Dark Goddess 56:15 - The myth of Persephone 59:49 - A change in Duncan’s meditation practice 01:00:43 - This is the Underworld 01:02:34 - Bailey’s and Steve’s problems 01:03:55 - The Franklin’s Tale 01:05:30 - How occultists interpret their life situations 01:09:12 - Is everyone psychotic? 01:10:45 - Using depression and panic as portals 01:12:16 - Duncan believes in everything 01:14:00 - Internal vs external integration 01:19:30 - Why you need mythic literacy 01:20:57 - How to learn more about myths 01:22:55 - Should you read myths? 01:25:07 - The myth of Narcissus 01:28:25 - Scholar vs poet 01:32:22 - Finishing a novel 01:34:06 - Narrative fashions in fiction 01:36:01 - Haunting quality 01:37:43 - A companion in the Underworld 
… Watch previous episodes with Duncan Barford: - https://www.guruviking.com/search?q=barford Read “The Going Down”: - https://godsandradicals.squarespace.com/bookstore/p/the-going-down-by-duncan-barford To find our more about Duncan Barford, visit: - https://www.duncanbarford.uk/ … For more interviews, videos, and more visit: - https://www.guruviking.com Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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In this episode I am once again joined by Duncan Barford, occult practitioner, counsellor, and author of “Occult Experiments in the Home”.

Duncan reflects on his training as a counsellor and the difficulties in sharing his occult interests in that context; his deep appreciation of Freud and Jung; and the links between psychoanalysis and mythic figures such as such as Uranus, Oedipus, and Narcissus.

Duncan considers whether Buddhism is merely a useful fiction, offers advice for those interested in learning how tp use mythology to gain insight into life, and explains why the emphasis of his spiritual practice has shifted from awakening to psychological wellbeing.

Duncan also talks about his new magical novel, “The Going Down”, describes its plot and messages, and reveals why he believes the practice of Pragmatic Dharma can accrue a profoundly dark karmic debt.

Video version: www.guruviking.com

Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

Topics include:

00:00 - Intro
00:59 - Duncan’s therapist hated the occult
02:58 - Misconceptions about Jungian therapy
04:19 - Psychopomp as therapist
04:25 - Freud, Jung, Skinner, Piaget, Rogers, and Carlyle
08:48 - Duncan was a fervent Freudian
09:35 - Freud vs trauma therapy
13:13 - What Freud did
15:58 - Buddhism’s useful fiction
19:47 - Where Freud went wrong
21:50 - The castration complex
26:37 - Castration myths
27:58 - Freud and Duncan’s childhood
30:40 - Universal or culturally specific?
32:15 - Oedipus, myth, and psychoanalysis
37:29 - Duncan’s novel
38:36 - Writing “The Going Down”
41:11 - Plot summary
43:07 - A life-changing ancestor working
44:22 - Duncan’s hope for the book
45:53 - Fiction and the occult
48:40 - Alan Chapman’s dismay at the novel
49:22 - The dark, karmic debt of Pragmatic Dharma
54:38 - Meeting a Dark Goddess
56:15 - The myth of Persephone
59:49 - A change in Duncan’s meditation practice
01:00:43 - This is the Underworld
01:02:34 - Bailey’s and Steve’s problems
01:03:55 - The Franklin’s Tale
01:05:30 - How occultists interpret their life situations
01:09:12 - Is everyone psychotic?
01:10:45 - Using depression and panic as portals
01:12:16 - Duncan believes in everything
01:14:00 - Internal vs external integration
01:19:30 - Why you need mythic literacy
01:20:57 - How to learn more about myths
01:22:55 - Should you read myths?
01:25:07 - The myth of Narcissus
01:28:25 - Scholar vs poet
01:32:22 - Finishing a novel
01:34:06 - Narrative fashions in fiction
01:36:01 - Haunting quality
01:37:43 - A companion in the Underworld

…

Watch previous episodes with Duncan Barford:
- https://www.guruviking.com/search?q=barford

Read “The Going Down”:
- https://godsandradicals.squarespace.com/bookstore/p/the-going-down-by-duncan-barford

To find our more about Duncan Barford, visit:
- https://www.duncanbarford.uk/

For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- https://www.guruviking.com

Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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