
Fated Mates - Romance Books for Novel People
S02.03: Lisa Kleypas Does Spectacles Better than F. Scott Fitzgerald: Dreaming of You
Sep 25, 2019 · 1 hr 23 min · Season 2 · Episode 3 · 83.0 MBExplicit
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We begin the exploration of The Books That Blooded Us with the one that probably least surprised listeners—Lisa Kleypas’s Dreaming of You! We tackle this fabulous, bonkers book (yes, we get to the bottom of the did-he-or-didn’t-he conundrum, and we spend some serious time discussing Joyce). We also talk about how we think Derek Craven changed the romance hero game, what might have been in the water in romance in the early-mid 1990s, and Sarah tells a few stories about her weekend with the queen herself, Lisa Kleypas.
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Show Notes
- Anyone know if Warby Parker is looking for a podcast to sponser?
- Sarah & Lisa spent time together because they were signing at Nora Roberts's bookstore, Turn the Page, in real-life Boonsboro, MD. Jen had some hard-core FOMO.
- February 4th is Derek Craven Day, look at some of our tweets from that day.
- A reminder of that 1992 election and what we should have learned from Anita Hill. But Stormy Danielsis more in control of her narrative.
- Josh Lyman never calls it a recession, call it a bagel.
- We love Steve Ammidown at the BGSU pop culture library.
- IRL, Matilda was Pamela. But that ending, classic Lady or the Tiger or The Sopranos.
- The second casino is in Devil in Winter, where Ivo Jenner's daughter falls in love with Sebastian, St. Vincent, whom many think is Lisa's best hero. They are wrong.
- We're back on Moonstruck with that mother-in-law and "Bring me the big knife!"
- More about some of those Jungian archetypes.
- Jen meant coitus interruptus in the Urban Dictionary way, not the Merriam-Webster way.
- This article seems to think head hopping is more common in roamance, but I don't know if that's true.
- Close third person POV or Free Indirect Speech & Jane Austen.
- Have you listened to our bodily autonomy episode?
- Dangerous Liasons the book has been around for a long time, but Jen is talking about the 1988 movie.
- "She leaves the gun on the table" is a reference to a famous writing precept by Chekhov.
- Doing spectacles better than F. Scott Fitzgerald.
- Gentle Rogue is coming up in two weeks.
- Kelly has some Fated Mates swag and Romancelandia buttons for sale.
- Derek Craven would never.
- Fated Mates is produced by Eric Mortensen
The Rest
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instagram.comThreads
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- 0:00Intro
- 4:00Dreaming of You
- 7:10America is the Early 90s
- 10:45The Working Class Hero
- 13:20AHeroine with Her Own Interests
- 16:40A Quick Overview
- 19:00Sex and Sex Workers
- 26:27Derek Craven is King
- 27:40Return to Greenwood Corners
- 34:20Sara as Heroine
- 37:10Schrodinger’s Craven
- 46:50Some Notes about Craft
- 54:55The Evil Other Woman
- 1:04:15Masks & Tailismans
- 1:13:25The Fire
- 1:18:05Outro