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The UN settled on net-zero emissions by 2050 as a global climate goal, and now everyone—from scientists to policymakers to corporate leaders—uses it. But after saying "net-zero by 2050" an infinite number of times, Aliya wants to know if it's still the right target. Rich thinks the word "net" does the heavy lifting, and Vijay thinks the whole concept is an aspiration (just like improving his golf game). The Frenemies dig into emissions targets, energy burden, and the green premium, and ask how best to measure progress toward clean, cheap, and reliable energy.