Adam Met on Permitting Reform, Building Clean Energy Superfans, and Selling Out Madison Square Garden

Sting has the rainforest. Pierce Brosnan has the whales. Adam Met has permitting reform.

The AJR pop star, who has more than 5 billion streams on Spotify and a PhD in sustainable development, joins Jigar and Jamie to make the case that permitting reform is energy's rare bipartisan opening.

His answer is the Co-Location Energy Act: a bill that clears the way for solar and wind on top of 18 million acres of existing oil and gas leases, land that's already disturbed, already roaded, already wired.

They get into why he sold the same bill as "all of the above energy" to Republicans and carbon reduction to Democrats, what the music industry knows about building superfans that clean energy still doesn't, and why he ran the same play on state land in case Washington stalls.

Along the way: buying strangers beers in Colorado bars, 1,000 petition signatures at a 109-degree Phoenix show, and a secret plan Adam asks the hosts not to repeat.

Plus: the case that the climate movement shouldn't exist, and a guest appearance from Jamie's daughter.

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