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Data Over Dogma · Monday · 58 min

Help Meet, Not Help Yourself

This week, we're taking issue with Mark Driscoll, who recently explained that a wife is a garden, a husband is the gardener, and — out loud, on purpose — that the finished result is "beautiful property." We dig into where that idea actually comes from: 1 Corinthians 11, the bride-price laws of Deuteronomy 22, ezer kenegdo, and an ancient world where a woman's social identity (and her virginity) belonged to whichever man held the deed. Then: is the Bible the world's oldest game of telephone? If you mean translation, no — but when it comes to the transmission of the manuscripts, from the verses that quietly vanished from your New Testament to a version of Jeremiah a full sixth shorter, the comedians may be onto something. Support Data Over Dogma and get every episode early and ad-free, plus exclusive bonus content — become a patron: https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Get your Data Over Dogma merch at our online store: https://data-over-dogma-shop.fourthwall.com/ Watch every episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dataoverdogma Follow us: Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/dataoverdogmapod TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@data.over.dogma.pod Threads — https://www.threads.com/@dataoverdogmapod X — https://x.com/data_over_dogma Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod Get Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book, The Bible Says So: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/bible-says-so-9781250347466/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This week, we're taking issue with Mark Driscoll, who recently explained that a wife is a garden, a husband is the gardener, and — out loud, on purpose — that the finished result is "beautiful property."

We dig into where that idea actually comes from: 1 Corinthians 11, the bride-price laws of Deuteronomy 22, ezer kenegdo, and an ancient world where a woman's social identity (and her virginity) belonged to whichever man held the deed.

Then: is the Bible the world's oldest game of telephone? If you mean translation, no — but when it comes to the transmission of the manuscripts, from the verses that quietly vanished from your New Testament to a version of Jeremiah a full sixth shorter, the comedians may be onto something.


Support Data Over Dogma and get every episode early and ad-free, plus exclusive bonus content — become a patron:

https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma


Get your Data Over Dogma merch at our online store:

https://data-over-dogma-shop.fourthwall.com/


Watch every episode on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/@dataoverdogma


Follow us:

Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/dataoverdogmapod

TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@data.over.dogma.pod

Threads — https://www.threads.com/@dataoverdogmapod

X — https://x.com/data_over_dogma

Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod


Get Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book, The Bible Says So:

https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/bible-says-so-9781250347466/

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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