Former Deputy DNI Sue Gordon: ‘it is conceivable that the world order has already been broken’

Nov 28, 2025 · 26 min · 22.0 MB

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Washington is trimming budgets… and bleeding digital expertise. So what happens when national security is run by agencies living in the past? Sue Gordon, former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, helps us break it down.

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