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Built Human · July 18 · 59 min

Why The People Building AI Are Setting Tech Boundaries

Luke Larson, President of Modern.tech, sits down with Andrew and Jon for a grounded conversation on pro-human technology. Where AI is actually going. What fast adoption means for normal jobs. Why some of the people closest to this work are the ones being most careful about how they use it. Three technologists, talking honestly about the tools they help build and the tools they choose not to use. What we cover: → What "pro-human technology" actually means, and what it looks like in practice → Where AI is actually heading, and what it changes day to day → Screen time and sleep, and the data nobody talks about → AI companions and the teen loneliness problem → How three working technologists draw the line at home → What building a company really cost Luke, and what he changed Mentioned in this episode: Zhong et al., screen time and sleep (JAMA Network Open): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11950897/ OpenAI and MIT Media Lab on AI emotional connection (APA writeup): https://www.apa.org/monitor/2026/01-02/trends-digital-ai-relationships-emotional-connection Follow Built Human at @builthuman for the most thought-provoking moments from the show and the small reminders worth carrying into your week. Your guest and hosts: Luke Larson is President of Modern.tech and has built and sold software companies alongside Andrew. Andrew Coca is the CEO of Evolved Technologies, a pro-human technologist building technology that keeps people's health intact, at @andrew__coca. Jon Marchetti is the Director of Animal Base, documenting his own journey at @jon__marchetti. For more on Animal Base, the curated marketplace built around what you eat, how you live, and how you rest, visit animalbase.com.

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Luke Larson, President of Modern.tech, sits down with Andrew and Jon for a grounded conversation on pro-human technology. Where AI is actually going. What fast adoption means for normal jobs. Why some of the people closest to this work are the ones being most careful about how they use it.

Three technologists, talking honestly about the tools they help build and the tools they choose not to use.

What we cover:

→ What "pro-human technology" actually means, and what it looks like in practice → Where AI is actually heading, and what it changes day to day → Screen time and sleep, and the data nobody talks about → AI companions and the teen loneliness problem → How three working technologists draw the line at home → What building a company really cost Luke, and what he changed

Mentioned in this episode:

Zhong et al., screen time and sleep (JAMA Network Open): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11950897/

OpenAI and MIT Media Lab on AI emotional connection (APA writeup): https://www.apa.org/monitor/2026/01-02/trends-digital-ai-relationships-emotional-connection

Follow Built Human at @builthuman for the most thought-provoking moments from the show and the small reminders worth carrying into your week.

Your guest and hosts: Luke Larson is President of Modern.tech and has built and sold software companies alongside Andrew. Andrew Coca is the CEO of Evolved Technologies, a pro-human technologist building technology that keeps people's health intact, at @andrew__coca. Jon Marchetti is the Director of Animal Base, documenting his own journey at @jon__marchetti.

For more on Animal Base, the curated marketplace built around what you eat, how you live, and how you rest, visit animalbase.com.

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