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The Lesser Evil Lost — Now What for Catholics?

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! You can feel it after this election: the old scripts are breaking. We sit down with Stephen Cox to talk through the fallout, the fury aimed at Catholics who refuse to “just press R,” and the deeper issue underneath the internet drama. When political identity becomes a substitute for moral reasoning, even serious Catholics start excusing what they used to call evil, as long as it comes packaged as conservative. We dig into the heart of the argument: the “lesser of two evils” approach has trained generations to normalize corruption, foreign policy disasters, and moral compromise while calling it prudence. We walk through Catholic moral theology in plain language, including material cooperation with evil, proportionate reasons, and why scandal matters when you publicly back candidates who keep moving the line. Along the way we challenge talking points on abortion politics, abortion pills, IVF, and contraception, and we ask why so many leaders treat “pro life” as branding rather than policy. The conversation also turns to how certain historical and religious debates become taboo, how edited texts and social penalties shape what Catholics feel safe discussing, and why media narratives can control a movement without ever winning an argument. We close with what all this means for the next few years: immigration pressure, war politics, growing distrust of establishment figures, and the search for a coherent Catholic public witness. If this hit a nerve, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review. Where do you draw the line between prudence and compromise? Support the show Get 10% off an amazing Black Monk Rosary by going to https://www.blackmonkrosaries.com/?ref=AVOIDINGBABYLON and using code AVOIDINGBABYLON at checkout! Check out our sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

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Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!

You can feel it after this election: the old scripts are breaking. We sit down with Stephen Cox to talk through the fallout, the fury aimed at Catholics who refuse to “just press R,” and the deeper issue underneath the internet drama. When political identity becomes a substitute for moral reasoning, even serious Catholics start excusing what they used to call evil, as long as it comes packaged as conservative.

We dig into the heart of the argument: the “lesser of two evils” approach has trained generations to normalize corruption, foreign policy disasters, and moral compromise while calling it prudence. We walk through Catholic moral theology in plain language, including material cooperation with evil, proportionate reasons, and why scandal matters when you publicly back candidates who keep moving the line. Along the way we challenge talking points on abortion politics, abortion pills, IVF, and contraception, and we ask why so many leaders treat “pro life” as branding rather than policy.

The conversation also turns to how certain historical and religious debates become taboo, how edited texts and social penalties shape what Catholics feel safe discussing, and why media narratives can control a movement without ever winning an argument. We close with what all this means for the next few years: immigration pressure, war politics, growing distrust of establishment figures, and the search for a coherent Catholic public witness.

If this hit a nerve, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review. Where do you draw the line between prudence and compromise?

Support the show


Get 10% off an amazing Black Monk Rosary by going to https://www.blackmonkrosaries.com/?ref=AVOIDINGBABYLON and using code AVOIDINGBABYLON at checkout!

Check out our sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!

Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1

https://www.avoidingbabylon.com

Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com

Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com

Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe

RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

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