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In this episode of AI & Os, host Veronica D’Souza sits down with Cecilie Waagner, founder of the open-source company Nobody Who, to explore how we can reclaim data control and digital agency from tech monopolies.
Together, they confront the extreme centralization of power within US and Chinese tech giants and examine why Europe’s path forward isn't about building the biggest models, but about choosing a fundamentally different approach: Local AI. Cecilie shares her eye-opening moment with AI, the "Faustian bargain" we strike when trading our data for daily convenience, and the escalating privacy, financial, and environmental costs of relying entirely on cloud-based infrastructure.
They also discuss how local, open-source AI allows individuals and companies to run models aligned with their own values - completely offline, with zero data sent to external servers. It’s an inspiring, hopeful conversation about taking control back, democratizing technology, and daring to build a human-centered digital future.