#20 — Become an Agentic Engineer with Kaido Koort

Claude Code can produce more code than an engineer can comfortably review. Trusting that output takes a repeatable workflow, protected learning time and checks that catch a solution to the wrong problem. Andrey Devyatkin and Fernando Gonçalves join Kaido Koort to explore agentic engineering training, agent-led specs, validator sub-agents, session handoffs, verification versus validation, and what Claude certifications actually demonstrate. What you will learn: How six Fridays progress from brownfield orientation to parallel agents How competing validator sub-agents expose trade-offs before implementation starts How transcript-based wrap-ups turn forgotten decisions into actionable issues Why verification and validation need separate gates for agent output How autonomy, parallelism and skill usage reveal different learning gaps Maybe try B.O.R.I.S, our context layer for AI agents: https://www.getboris.ai Episode page, show notes and links