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Agentic AI Execution · July 30 · 23 min

Build Structure - Don't Chase Tools | Ep. 18

In this episode, I sit down with Michael—a technical product management leader who has spent the last ten years building TPM teams from scratch. Together, we explore what agentic architecture looks like inside an engineering org and the mentorship that separates teams winning with AI from those who are just experimenting. Michael shares his mental models for AI adoption, explaining why we need to move past the "experimentation phase" and focus on building durable systems. Whether you are a product manager, TPM, or engineer, this conversation provides practical advice on shifting your perspective from using AI as a tool to leading AI as a teammate. ——————————————————————⏱ CHAPTERS——————————————————————00:00 - Introduction to Agentic AI Execution 00:31 - Michael's Journey & Building a TPM Team 06:07 - Why 95% of AI Agents Fail to Reach Production 15:51 - How Engineering Teams Can Close the AI Adoption Gap 12:54 - Leading AI as a Teammate, Not a Tool 23:19 - Outro & TPM Breakdowns Substack Links & ResourcesMichael's substack: https://michigoetz.substack.com/aboutConnect with Us! Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michi-goetz Leena:https://www.linkedin.com/in/leenaagarwal

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In this episode, I sit down with Michael—a technical product management leader who has spent the last ten years building TPM teams from scratch. Together, we explore what agentic architecture looks like inside an engineering org and the mentorship that separates teams winning with AI from those who are just experimenting. Michael shares his mental models for AI adoption, explaining why we need to move past the "experimentation phase" and focus on building durable systems. Whether you are a product manager, TPM, or engineer, this conversation provides practical advice on shifting your perspective from using AI as a tool to leading AI as a teammate. ——————————————————————⏱ CHAPTERS——————————————————————00:00 - Introduction to Agentic AI Execution 00:31 - Michael's Journey & Building a TPM Team 06:07 - Why 95% of AI Agents Fail to Reach Production 15:51 - How Engineering Teams Can Close the AI Adoption Gap 12:54 - Leading AI as a Teammate, Not a Tool 23:19 - Outro & TPM Breakdowns Substack Links & ResourcesMichael's substack: https://michigoetz.substack.com/aboutConnect with Us!

  • Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michi-goetz
  • Leena:https://www.linkedin.com/in/leenaagarwal
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